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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That said, the fact that I haven’t sold another book yet isn’t, IMO, due to factors beyond my control. I just don’t think I’ve written a good enough book yet.&quot;

This is a very brave thing to say.  I&#039;m totally there with you.  It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t believe in &quot;creative differences,&quot; but I prefer to think of my own struggles with rejection as &quot;learning experiences.&quot;  An opportunity to grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That said, the fact that I haven’t sold another book yet isn’t, IMO, due to factors beyond my control. I just don’t think I’ve written a good enough book yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a very brave thing to say.  I&#8217;m totally there with you.  It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t believe in &#8220;creative differences,&#8221; but I prefer to think of my own struggles with rejection as &#8220;learning experiences.&#8221;  An opportunity to grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW as a small update....spoke to an editors assistant at a big NY pub this week (not mine) and funny enough, we got to talking about the mail we get from readers about stuff like missing pages and one misspelled word and I was SURPRISED to learn that the publisher gets the hate mail too. Made me feel SOOO much better LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW as a small update&#8230;.spoke to an editors assistant at a big NY pub this week (not mine) and funny enough, we got to talking about the mail we get from readers about stuff like missing pages and one misspelled word and I was SURPRISED to learn that the publisher gets the hate mail too. Made me feel SOOO much better LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Delilah Marvelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delilah Marvelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill,
I didn&#039;t take offense at all!  It wasn&#039;t by any means insensitive.  I simply figured you were referring to writing.  And bottom line, that is all a writer should be held accountable for.  Because our job is to write.  Some people may be great at promoting themselves but what about those that don&#039;t have the money or the time but write fabulous books??  It breaks my heart to think those writers aren&#039;t being given a better chance.
Amie,
Thanks for the congrats!!!  Grin.
Jackie,
Thank you *so* much for the congrats!!!  It means so much to me.  And I don&#039;t know about the role model thing, LOL, but I&#039;ll take it as the best compliment ever.  I hope that things turn around quickly for you.  I KNOW they will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill,<br />
I didn&#8217;t take offense at all!  It wasn&#8217;t by any means insensitive.  I simply figured you were referring to writing.  And bottom line, that is all a writer should be held accountable for.  Because our job is to write.  Some people may be great at promoting themselves but what about those that don&#8217;t have the money or the time but write fabulous books??  It breaks my heart to think those writers aren&#8217;t being given a better chance.<br />
Amie,<br />
Thanks for the congrats!!!  Grin.<br />
Jackie,<br />
Thank you *so* much for the congrats!!!  It means so much to me.  And I don&#8217;t know about the role model thing, LOL, but I&#8217;ll take it as the best compliment ever.  I hope that things turn around quickly for you.  I KNOW they will!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On accountability...

I think the real struggle for authors, in many ways, is that we ARE held accountable for our sales even though, realistically, there is not a lot we can do to affect them. Publishers have far more control over the sales of our books than we do, because they&#039;re the ones who market the books to booksellers and make the deals for co-op space and all the other nifty stuff that makes your book visible to consumers. An author can have an effect on the margins, but I think that margin is statistically pretty small.

The only thing the author can really be held accountable for, IMO, is writing her best book. After that, it&#039;s kind of out of her hands.

That said, the fact that I haven&#039;t sold another book yet isn&#039;t, IMO, due to factors beyond my control. I just don&#039;t think I&#039;ve written a good enough book yet. That&#039;s down to me, and not to the fact that sell-through on a debut book with a $14 cover price is probably NOT gonna be great in a recession.

I do believe the Field of Dreams adage: If you build it, they will come. I just haven&#039;t built it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On accountability&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the real struggle for authors, in many ways, is that we ARE held accountable for our sales even though, realistically, there is not a lot we can do to affect them. Publishers have far more control over the sales of our books than we do, because they&#8217;re the ones who market the books to booksellers and make the deals for co-op space and all the other nifty stuff that makes your book visible to consumers. An author can have an effect on the margins, but I think that margin is statistically pretty small.</p>
<p>The only thing the author can really be held accountable for, IMO, is writing her best book. After that, it&#8217;s kind of out of her hands.</p>
<p>That said, the fact that I haven&#8217;t sold another book yet isn&#8217;t, IMO, due to factors beyond my control. I just don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve written a good enough book yet. That&#8217;s down to me, and not to the fact that sell-through on a debut book with a $14 cover price is probably NOT gonna be great in a recession.</p>
<p>I do believe the Field of Dreams adage: If you build it, they will come. I just haven&#8217;t built it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to add my voice to Amie&#039;s and say congratulations to you, Delilah. A three book deal with HQN is such wonderful news and I couldn&#039;t be more delighted for you.

And I&#039;ll tell you what, you&#039;re totally my new role model. Talk about taking lemons and making lemonade. You&#039;ve taken it to a whole new level, m&#039;dear :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to add my voice to Amie&#8217;s and say congratulations to you, Delilah. A three book deal with HQN is such wonderful news and I couldn&#8217;t be more delighted for you.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll tell you what, you&#8217;re totally my new role model. Talk about taking lemons and making lemonade. You&#8217;ve taken it to a whole new level, m&#8217;dear <img src='http://www.jackiebarbosa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Amie Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amie Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill....I Totally! get what you mean :D And I&#039;m HUGE on accountability--ask my teenage children....can you say pet peeve? 

But not when it comes to the stuff that IS beyond the author&#039;s control--ie the covers and missing pages I mentioned.  And I hate seeing authors getting reamed for stuff that IS beyond their control.  

One of my favorite apologies ever: http://sandrabrown.net/blog/2009/02/04/mea-culpa/

And yeah, sometimes wording on the interwebz can be tricky. ;)


Delilah &lt;i&gt;congrats&lt;/i&gt; on the new sale!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill&#8230;.I Totally! get what you mean <img src='http://www.jackiebarbosa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  And I&#8217;m HUGE on accountability&#8211;ask my teenage children&#8230;.can you say pet peeve? </p>
<p>But not when it comes to the stuff that IS beyond the author&#8217;s control&#8211;ie the covers and missing pages I mentioned.  And I hate seeing authors getting reamed for stuff that IS beyond their control.  </p>
<p>One of my favorite apologies ever: <a href="http://sandrabrown.net/blog/2009/02/04/mea-culpa/" rel="nofollow">http://sandrabrown.net/blog/2009/02/04/mea-culpa/</a></p>
<p>And yeah, sometimes wording on the interwebz can be tricky. <img src='http://www.jackiebarbosa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Delilah <i>congrats</i> on the new sale!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I should say that authors should be accountable for their writing.  Sales are a trickier issue.

Also, I apologize if my wording above is a little insensitive.  I didn&#039;t mean to imply that there is anything wrong with rallying readers to buy. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I should say that authors should be accountable for their writing.  Sales are a trickier issue.</p>
<p>Also, I apologize if my wording above is a little insensitive.  I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that there is anything wrong with rallying readers to buy. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Delilah Marvelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delilah Marvelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amie,
LOL about those balls of steel.  It comes from my passion for writing.  Not actual balls.  Or steel.  Grin.  Knowing Cheryl Holt, I can say that she is a *very* lovely lady who goes above and beyond to help fellow authors in a way that humbles me.  People take things out of context and personally, I like you, I wanna know how did a reader&#039;s forum turned into everyone&#039;s forum.

Jill,
I agree to a point about accountability (everyone should be holding themselves accountable for things) however, I feel as if too much of that accountability is being placed upon an author.  A recession isn&#039;t something an author should be held accountable for.  There should be factors brought to the table the enable an author to better understand what they really should be held accountable for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amie,<br />
LOL about those balls of steel.  It comes from my passion for writing.  Not actual balls.  Or steel.  Grin.  Knowing Cheryl Holt, I can say that she is a *very* lovely lady who goes above and beyond to help fellow authors in a way that humbles me.  People take things out of context and personally, I like you, I wanna know how did a reader&#8217;s forum turned into everyone&#8217;s forum.</p>
<p>Jill,<br />
I agree to a point about accountability (everyone should be holding themselves accountable for things) however, I feel as if too much of that accountability is being placed upon an author.  A recession isn&#8217;t something an author should be held accountable for.  There should be factors brought to the table the enable an author to better understand what they really should be held accountable for.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve posted about my writing woes on my blog.  Not because I want reader support, or pity sales.  Just because I feel as though I&#039;m among friends in the online romance community, and I want to share my experiences.  Good and bad.  

One thing that seems to strike a wrong note with readers is a lack of accountability on the author&#039;s part.  I don&#039;t know what others have experienced, but I feel as though my failings are my own.  If I don&#039;t succeed, I will take the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted about my writing woes on my blog.  Not because I want reader support, or pity sales.  Just because I feel as though I&#8217;m among friends in the online romance community, and I want to share my experiences.  Good and bad.  </p>
<p>One thing that seems to strike a wrong note with readers is a lack of accountability on the author&#8217;s part.  I don&#8217;t know what others have experienced, but I feel as though my failings are my own.  If I don&#8217;t succeed, I will take the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that there is WAY too much secrecy in publishing, but I think, when it comes to talking about your publisher, it&#039;s uh LOL ALL in the execution.  

Delilah I commend you. You have balls of steel. I could NEVER do it.  That said, K didn&#039;t pick up my option book but I&#039;ve already moved on to write other things that my agent is shopping.  *shrugs*

Much as I LOVE that option book and hope it sells to another house, I KNOW My career is not in erotica.  

I missed the whole discussion about Justine&#039;s cover so I really can&#039;t comment but I will say that I think educating readers about how LITTLE control authors have over our work and how it&#039;s sold/presented is a good thing.  Writers should NOT be held accountable (by readers) for every little mechanical (covers, missing pages etc) issue that crops up where a book is concerned.  The writer writes the book; the writer promos the book. The writer does their best to edit the book; the writer does not make the cover, and, for lack of a better word, nobody writers have NO control over the cover.  The writer doesn&#039;t bind the book--a factory somewhere does.  

As to Ms. Holt....I&#039;m sad that her email was posted in a public forum like that because to be frank, it went far beyond what I would EVER say to a reader. It was definitely TMI in my book.  That said, there are two sides to every story and then there is the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that there is WAY too much secrecy in publishing, but I think, when it comes to talking about your publisher, it&#8217;s uh LOL ALL in the execution.  </p>
<p>Delilah I commend you. You have balls of steel. I could NEVER do it.  That said, K didn&#8217;t pick up my option book but I&#8217;ve already moved on to write other things that my agent is shopping.  *shrugs*</p>
<p>Much as I LOVE that option book and hope it sells to another house, I KNOW My career is not in erotica.  </p>
<p>I missed the whole discussion about Justine&#8217;s cover so I really can&#8217;t comment but I will say that I think educating readers about how LITTLE control authors have over our work and how it&#8217;s sold/presented is a good thing.  Writers should NOT be held accountable (by readers) for every little mechanical (covers, missing pages etc) issue that crops up where a book is concerned.  The writer writes the book; the writer promos the book. The writer does their best to edit the book; the writer does not make the cover, and, for lack of a better word, nobody writers have NO control over the cover.  The writer doesn&#8217;t bind the book&#8211;a factory somewhere does.  </p>
<p>As to Ms. Holt&#8230;.I&#8217;m sad that her email was posted in a public forum like that because to be frank, it went far beyond what I would EVER say to a reader. It was definitely TMI in my book.  That said, there are two sides to every story and then there is the truth.</p>
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